tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post500190231893902638..comments2024-03-28T21:34:40.656-07:00Comments on WILD ABOUT HARRY: The Prince of Wales assaultJohn Coxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04391313393222271260noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-72974799383333340252014-06-06T18:54:38.689-07:002014-06-06T18:54:38.689-07:00Works for me. CLICK HERE.Works for me. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ema7lfEAMk" rel="nofollow">CLICK HERE</a>.John Coxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04391313393222271260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-62911307862289515052014-06-06T18:01:41.047-07:002014-06-06T18:01:41.047-07:00The link provided by Pat took me to a closed capti...The link provided by Pat took me to a closed caption on Youtube that says:<br /><br />This video is unavailable.<br />Sorry about that.<br /><br />hmmm........Leo Hevianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-62226612423248838532014-06-06T17:02:23.608-07:002014-06-06T17:02:23.608-07:00Good point.Good point.John Coxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04391313393222271260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-30037274230344497722014-06-06T11:41:32.465-07:002014-06-06T11:41:32.465-07:00Love that. That should be the motto of this blog.Love that. That should be the motto of this blog.John Coxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04391313393222271260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-12930996611550816152014-06-05T10:03:44.220-07:002014-06-05T10:03:44.220-07:00If the cocktail party was on Friday, it has no rel...If the cocktail party was on Friday, it has no relevance. Ken Silverman made a lot of mistakes. I found him remarkably close-minded on certain matters. However, he justified it well when he said (I'm paraphrasing a little), "In most famous lives there are at least three different versions of any given event. In Houdini's life, there are at least ten versions of any event."<br />Patrick Cullitonhttp://www.houdinisghost.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-87857095741631734082014-06-04T18:56:03.096-07:002014-06-04T18:56:03.096-07:00Indeed. Although, Kalush and Christopher have the...Indeed. Although, Kalush and Christopher have the champagne party happening in Houdini’s Hotel room Friday night where Silverman states Saturday night. After reviewing the source that they both used, I may have to lean toward Kalush and Christopher on this one.Joe M. Notarohttp://harryhoudinicircumstantialevidence.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-4770854326248275712014-06-04T17:56:59.261-07:002014-06-04T17:56:59.261-07:00We can't dismiss the Gilles Larin family story...We can't dismiss the Gilles Larin family story. We can't prove it either. But, the cocktail party certainly makes it sound as if some of the company went back to the hotel for some legal booze before they returned to the land of prohibition.Patrick Cullitonhttp://www.houdinisghost.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-52843615159385886232014-06-04T10:43:28.740-07:002014-06-04T10:43:28.740-07:00Interesting the think that HH might have been in t...Interesting the think that HH might have been in the hotel lobby to get away from Bessie's "champagne party."John Coxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04391313393222271260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-24617256957568915372014-06-04T10:39:56.516-07:002014-06-04T10:39:56.516-07:00Well the 1000 miles may be an HH exaggeration; it ...Well the 1000 miles may be an HH exaggeration; it is approximately 575 miles from Montreal to Detroit. And by car today would take about 10 hours 30 minutes and by train would take about 9 to 11 hours. Who knows how long it would have taken back in HH’s day.Joe M. Notarohttp://harryhoudinicircumstantialevidence.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-1135824048086812112014-06-04T10:02:35.412-07:002014-06-04T10:02:35.412-07:00I am amazed that he performed 4 shows (Friday even...I am amazed that he performed 4 shows (Friday evening Montreal, Saturday Matinee Montreal, Saturday evening Montreal, Sunday evening Detroit) after being punched Friday (10/22) by Whitehead. The last show in Montreal, was advertised to start at 8.15 in the evening. So if it started on time and ran for 2 ½ hours, it would have ended around 10:45. <br />Per Jim Collins, After Saturday show, HH Joe M. Notarohttp://harryhoudinicircumstantialevidence.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-75777584828923738562014-06-04T07:09:24.346-07:002014-06-04T07:09:24.346-07:00It seems logical and likely that Houdini has time ...It seems logical and likely that Houdini has time to eat after the show and some downtime back at the hotel. As you say, I'm sure the assistants oversaw the packing of the show on the train.<br /><br />Also recall that Houdini's train got in very late to Detroit. They had to scramble when they arrived. This delay could have been on the front end of the trip -- the train left late. Hence John Coxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04391313393222271260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-56176781431160720702014-06-03T17:53:19.400-07:002014-06-03T17:53:19.400-07:00McGill's location isn't germane. We are lo...McGill's location isn't germane. We are looking at Houdini's path to the station after his Saturday night show. I didn't think to ask Ozzie Malini if he, his father and Houdini ate after the show. We need to know how long after the performance the train left. The assistants should have been packing the show during the show. How long after the show were they fully packed and ready Patrick Cullitonhttp://www.houdinisghost.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-50997315976110057322014-06-03T07:40:58.595-07:002014-06-03T07:40:58.595-07:00Here is the link to the 1923 map which has McGill ...Here is the link to the 1923 map which has McGill College Ave on it:<br />https://www.etsy.com/listing/115589459/1923-antique-montreal-canada-map-vintage<br />Joe M. Notarohttp://harryhoudinicircumstantialevidence.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-54774768880148632422014-06-03T07:16:32.740-07:002014-06-03T07:16:32.740-07:00Yes. I just estimated where it would have been to...Yes. I just estimated where it would have been to get an approximately mileage for distance to train station. Joe M. Notarohttp://harryhoudinicircumstantialevidence.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-78103811987642435772014-06-03T07:04:01.248-07:002014-06-03T07:04:01.248-07:00I wanted to post a shot of the location of the Pri...I wanted to post a shot of the location of the Prince of Wales today, but I couldn't find it on Google maps. It looks like 17-19 McGill College Ave has been absorbed into the school or the street name has been changed. Did you find that, Joe?John Coxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04391313393222271260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-44751894936215491532014-06-02T22:55:34.003-07:002014-06-02T22:55:34.003-07:00Although there is an old photo of the legendary Pr...Although there is an old photo of the legendary Princess Theatre, that has railroad tracks in front of it. And it looks like the train station in Montreal today is located within walking distance.Joe M. Notarohttp://harryhoudinicircumstantialevidence.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-85388449096736772792014-06-02T20:47:05.011-07:002014-06-02T20:47:05.011-07:00As far as I can tell by looking at an old map from...As far as I can tell by looking at an old map from 1923, and comparing it to a modern map via google maps, it looks like the old Canadian Pacific Railway was a few miles away from The Prince of Wales Hotel and both are now long gone.Joe M. Notarohttp://harryhoudinicircumstantialevidence.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-86451858341929745582014-06-02T16:02:57.670-07:002014-06-02T16:02:57.670-07:00Everybody else punched him in the stomach and the ...Everybody else punched him in the stomach and the NURSE?Patrick Cullitonhttp://www.houdinisghost.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-22570825634477150392014-06-02T14:08:12.281-07:002014-06-02T14:08:12.281-07:00Sid Radner told me that Rose Mackenberg told him s...Sid Radner told me that Rose Mackenberg told him she once "tested" Houdini with a punch to the stomach.John Coxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04391313393222271260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-46913052498422586912014-06-02T13:51:59.715-07:002014-06-02T13:51:59.715-07:00I wonder how close the hotel is/was to the train s...I wonder how close the hotel is/was to the train station? I knew Ozzie Malini who was with Houdini that night. Did any of the company have a bite to eat in the hotel restaurant before they went to the train? I would doubt that most of the assistants stayed at the Prince of Wales. They may have, but, the assistants liked to find cheaper digs like theatrical boarding houses.<br />I have just Patrick Cullitonhttp://www.houdinisghost.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-11919754393619199912014-06-02T13:43:34.053-07:002014-06-02T13:43:34.053-07:00Honore was Francis' brother. I went back and c...Honore was Francis' brother. I went back and clarified in post.John Coxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04391313393222271260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-49789362282159497932014-06-02T13:31:17.029-07:002014-06-02T13:31:17.029-07:00I don’t have the Bell Book in front of me, but I a...I don’t have the Bell Book in front of me, but I am assuming that he was in the hotel lobby waiting for transport to the train station, as opposed to in the lobby waiting to board the overnight train?<br />Also, Francis Larin was the owner of the Prince of Wales Hotel from 1919 to 1930. What was Honore Larin’s (night clerk’s) relation to Francis?<br />Joe M. Notarohttp://harryhoudinicircumstantialevidence.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-46560235912553055262014-06-02T12:50:23.058-07:002014-06-02T12:50:23.058-07:00Like I said, I believe the Picklemen punch has met...Like I said, I believe the Picklemen punch has met a standard of proof. This one really hasn't. I was surprised to see it included as fact in the Kalush book.John Coxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04391313393222271260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-16808905074478413202014-06-02T12:47:39.908-07:002014-06-02T12:47:39.908-07:00You're right. I wrote second-hand, but this mo...You're right. I wrote second-hand, but this more removed than that. It's the night clerk to the grandfather to the father to the son to Bell.John Coxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04391313393222271260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-89085346601481403662014-06-02T12:45:08.762-07:002014-06-02T12:45:08.762-07:00Did they go direct from the theater to the train o...Did they go direct from the theater to the train or was there downtime back at the hotel? That's where the opening would be.John Coxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04391313393222271260noreply@blogger.com