tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post3563406986040956333..comments2024-03-28T21:34:40.656-07:00Comments on WILD ABOUT HARRY: Bessie's two gravesJohn Coxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04391313393222271260noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-30407725927553907902012-04-23T13:33:48.390-07:002012-04-23T13:33:48.390-07:00Excellent. Thanks for the clarification, John.Excellent. Thanks for the clarification, John.John Coxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04391313393222271260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-88531561017882187062012-04-23T13:28:42.185-07:002012-04-23T13:28:42.185-07:00Here son in law is buried John A. Hinson he died i...Here son in law is buried John A. Hinson he died in 1972.John Hinsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-72579438123991899822012-04-23T13:23:38.386-07:002012-04-23T13:23:38.386-07:00my grandmother always went by marie never may, wh...my grandmother always went by marie never may, when my aunt was there to they both answer at the same time.it was confusing at time, then we send grandma from then on.even my parents had to do that.John Hinsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-75151020569525214872012-03-14T08:04:44.969-07:002012-03-14T08:04:44.969-07:00Bess also mentions in Kellock a sister named Stell...Bess also mentions in Kellock a sister named Stella whom she is very close.John Coxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04391313393222271260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-1736203437851559552012-03-12T11:24:31.366-07:002012-03-12T11:24:31.366-07:00I see that "Raymond" error a lot. The ge...I see that "Raymond" error a lot. The genesis for this is Bess used the name Raymond as a professional name at some point, maybe even with the Floral Sisters.John Coxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04391313393222271260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-79569755906705878762012-03-12T01:00:59.085-07:002012-03-12T01:00:59.085-07:00Wow! One of eleven children! And yes, 'May'...Wow! One of eleven children! And yes, 'May' was probably jus short for 'Marie' (or the source I read got her name wrong. That happens. I once read something that said Bess' surname was Raymond.)<br /><br />Thanks for the reply :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-29726588753952213382012-03-11T18:30:09.086-07:002012-03-11T18:30:09.086-07:00According to the Houdini Art & Magic book, she...According to the Houdini Art & Magic book, she had nine sisters and one brother. I thought Marie Hinson was the mother of Marie Blood. Maybe she also went by May? Or maybe I'm getting my sisters confused.John Coxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04391313393222271260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-75286334019691154282012-03-11T18:12:52.999-07:002012-03-11T18:12:52.999-07:00Okay, I need answers....Does anybody know how many...Okay, I need answers....Does anybody know how many sisters Bess had? I know about May (the mother of Marie Blood,) and this post also mentions a sister called Marie, but I've always gotten the impression that there were more (I've also only ever heard mention of sisters, no brothers?)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-53733866733529653472012-02-12T16:33:01.424-08:002012-02-12T16:33:01.424-08:00I love that you are working to restore Gladys and ...I love that you are working to restore Gladys and Leo to the plot.John Coxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04391313393222271260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-30271685727217074262012-02-12T08:37:44.064-08:002012-02-12T08:37:44.064-08:00After we replaced the Houdini bust at the grave, o...After we replaced the Houdini bust at the grave, on one of our visits the management of the cemetery brought out the damaged simple matching headstones of Gladys and Leo. The foundations required by law are still there at the end of the plot. We have the permission of the cemetery to replace them, and are looking for contributions for this much needed project. We are going to try to replace Dick Brookz Dorothy Dietrichhttp://houdini.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-68097006175817191182012-02-11T11:56:34.291-08:002012-02-11T11:56:34.291-08:00Just say we're sentimental, Anon. That's ...Just say we're sentimental, Anon. That's my reason anyway.melbohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14032793912135092967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-27333354016042125242012-02-11T07:05:26.705-08:002012-02-11T07:05:26.705-08:00True, I just thought that sounded good. :pTrue, I just thought that sounded good. :pJohn Coxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04391313393222271260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-50340321721651695342012-02-11T07:04:43.006-08:002012-02-11T07:04:43.006-08:00Well, we know Bess's mother had a BIG problem ...Well, we know Bess's mother had a BIG problem with Houdini being Jewish (until he bought her a house or two). Don't know Machpelah's rules, but you'd think Houdini would have looked into it before including Bess's name on the headstone. Also, the cemetery was able to allow Houdini a "graven image", so...<br /><br />There's also the possibility that Bess and Ed John Coxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04391313393222271260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-53426273297320491552012-02-11T05:37:17.028-08:002012-02-11T05:37:17.028-08:00In any event, they are not separated "for ete...In any event, they are not separated "for eternity". Regardless of one's religious beliefs, all those of faith recognize this world to be only a temporary arrangement. All of the concerns expressed regarding where the couple are each buried simply represents the inconveniences for those of us who are still alive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-36194328468271215312012-02-10T23:28:47.371-08:002012-02-10T23:28:47.371-08:00I'm not saying either way as to the circumstan...I'm not saying either way as to the circumstances but some cemeteries will and some will not allow non Jewish spouses to be buried in them. It can depend on which branch of Judaism they are affiliated with (reformed, conservative, orthodox) and the bi-laws of the way the cemetery was established. You would have to check with Machpelah and see what their criteria is. If they do not allow it, Arthur Mosesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-42636723158147985332012-02-10T13:51:34.498-08:002012-02-10T13:51:34.498-08:00Not sure about Sadie, but, yeah, Leo lived a long ...Not sure about Sadie, but, yeah, Leo lived a long life. He and Gladys remained close. I think Gladys lived with him in the last years of her life. I believe Leo was going blind in the end. He killed himself (jumped off apt roof) in 1964 was it? He was the last sibling. BTW, both Leo and Gladys are in the Machpelah plot, but their tombstones were taken out for repair and never put back.John Coxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04391313393222271260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-40124196217556927942012-02-10T13:30:21.296-08:002012-02-10T13:30:21.296-08:00Or Sadie for that matter?Or Sadie for that matter?Beth S.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-52518213079545381812012-02-10T13:29:28.628-08:002012-02-10T13:29:28.628-08:00Not to mention it's inconvenient. Now if I wan...Not to mention it's inconvenient. Now if I want to see the graves of Houdini AND his wife, I have to go to two different cemeteries. :p (At least they're in the same city, not in a different state or continent).<br /><br />But yeah, kind of sad and bizarre. The whole spat Houdini had with Leo (and Sadie) seems much sadder, though, as it separated them in death AND life. John, is there anyBeth S.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-86768709613363246972012-02-10T12:44:19.437-08:002012-02-10T12:44:19.437-08:00Totally agree with you. Even if she had re-embrac...Totally agree with you. Even if she had re-embraced Catholicism on her deathbed, I still don't see why should would have done that if it meant she could not be buried with Harry. That bit just doesn't make sense to me.melbohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14032793912135092967noreply@blogger.com