tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post4486700748585225886..comments2024-03-28T21:34:40.656-07:00Comments on WILD ABOUT HARRY: HOUDINI'S ORIGINAL GRAVE BUST REVEALED!John Coxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04391313393222271260noreply@blogger.comBlogger52125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-11070742564521876572016-12-13T18:57:14.314-08:002016-12-13T18:57:14.314-08:00Hey Justin. The secret compartment thing was cooke...Hey Justin. The secret compartment thing was cooked up by Norman Bigelow. The bust was broken just a few weeks after Norm released his theory to the press, and there were some who thought it was Norm who did it. But now that we know the real story, it appears that timing was coincidental. I talk about this in my recent <a href="http://www.wildabouthoudini.com/2016/10/John Coxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04391313393222271260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-31168776405644055822016-12-13T16:23:15.661-08:002016-12-13T16:23:15.661-08:00PERHAPS THE BUST WAS SMASHED IN ORDER TO REVEAL TH...PERHAPS THE BUST WAS SMASHED IN ORDER TO REVEAL THIS:<br /><br /> There were rumors concerning that there was a secret compartment at Houdini's grave in Queens.[1] In addition, some people believe this cemetery, near Houdini grave, holds a secret compartment: this compartment, revealed by a hidden device, was said to be where dark secrets are waiting to be discovered.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03385337639531027737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-10423232798977148602016-03-30T18:34:11.067-07:002016-03-30T18:34:11.067-07:00Thanks Daniel. Have a great trip!Thanks Daniel. Have a great trip!John Coxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04391313393222271260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-62116598700818138312016-03-30T11:10:53.496-07:002016-03-30T11:10:53.496-07:00Houdini or Bust, or Busted Houdini...
Hey John,
...Houdini or Bust, or Busted Houdini...<br /><br />Hey John,<br /><br />Replying three years later, but that is the permanency of the Internet. I think you did a great job getting these pictures posted, to be diplomatic with certain people is a skill and had you scared him with legal action, they we would all be robbed of these photos.<br /><br />There are wonderful 3D mapping programs--which couldAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06886569335643978948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-17064127177886295542013-04-14T09:08:33.791-07:002013-04-14T09:08:33.791-07:00A little update. The email I used to communicate w...A little update. The email I used to communicate with "Harry Bust" no longer works. Looks like he and his bust have gone back underground. All very curious indeed.John Coxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04391313393222271260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-61849020462522154952013-02-27T09:20:48.723-08:002013-02-27T09:20:48.723-08:00Yeah, that has been pointed out. It is a little od...Yeah, that has been pointed out. It is a little odd that the bust was allowed.John Coxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04391313393222271260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-18210491265389765712013-02-06T10:24:15.863-08:002013-02-06T10:24:15.863-08:00If the SAM has the deed to the grave site it is th...If the SAM has the deed to the grave site it is their responsibility to pay for the upkeep of the cemetery. They have not done so for decades. <br /><br />Dorothy Dietrich & Dick Brookz<br />The Houdini Museum<br />The Only Building in the World Dedicated to Houdini<br />Over 22 years, plus many years on the third floor of New York's Magic Towne HouseDorothy Dietrich Dick Brookz Houdini Museumhttp://houdini.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-30724192477771913772013-02-05T17:41:18.933-08:002013-02-05T17:41:18.933-08:00i read on Wikipedia that it was a graven image and...i read on Wikipedia that it was a graven image and that its a shock a Jewish cemitary would allow it to be setup. wouldn't a graven image consist of being worshiped not just a token of rememberence?Socelitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14058757847184165778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-31065695430135093782013-02-03T21:37:43.048-08:002013-02-03T21:37:43.048-08:00Well, that's why you are here. It's good t...Well, that's why you are here. It's good to have someone ready and able to throw in a splash of skepticism and reminded us all of the larger issues -- legal and moral -- with something like this. And you're even allowed to do so anonymously. :)John Coxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04391313393222271260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-83312852407758683702013-02-03T14:20:41.706-08:002013-02-03T14:20:41.706-08:00I think I'm done here. Once we start replying ...I think I'm done here. Once we start replying to Assnonymous postings, it goes down hill to internet troll town.<br /><br /><br />I enjoyed your site. <br /><br />Good Luck,<br /><br />KevinKevin Connollyhttp://houdinihimself.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-22051352778278620112013-02-03T11:45:49.610-08:002013-02-03T11:45:49.610-08:00OK, so we are all so THRILLED to see the long lost...OK, so we are all so THRILLED to see the long lost artifact that we don't care who has it, how they got it, or what they plan to do with it. We are content to let them remain anonymous so long as they tell us a story (that it impossible to verify). What ever happend to skepticism? What ever happened to making someone prove their claims? Do we really sell out all semblance of principle nowAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-72976085116416207752013-02-02T18:15:39.477-08:002013-02-02T18:15:39.477-08:00My guess would be the one put on in 1927 either ca...My guess would be the one put on in 1927 either came from England or the company that built the Exedra. <br /><br />I believe the one the Parent Assembly has is one of the hollow "plastic" recovered ones. My understanding is that the rare, historic Presidents Book is from Bess (I may be wrong on this). My understanding is also that a lot of rare documents, etc. from the Presidents Dick Brookz Dorothy Dietrich Houdini Museumhttp://houdini.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-76843330961483472212013-02-02T13:59:26.423-08:002013-02-02T13:59:26.423-08:00Oh, I've always been under the impression that...Oh, I've always been under the impression that the grave bust was cast from a mold made from the bronze, but maybe not?John Coxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04391313393222271260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-51176274552031614682013-02-02T13:54:06.546-08:002013-02-02T13:54:06.546-08:00I don't know about copy though. I just think t...I don't know about copy though. I just think they are different looking versus being a copy of the other.Kevin Connollyhttp://houdinihimself.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-22554160388701845292013-02-02T13:46:32.223-08:002013-02-02T13:46:32.223-08:00The bust Houdini is posing with is the original br...The bust Houdini is posing with is the original bronze. The grave bust is a marble copy. The caption is wrong, it's not "the bust destined for his tomb". I know, hard to believe there could be a mistake in Brandon. ;pJohn Coxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04391313393222271260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-56235279142849310182013-02-02T13:40:10.055-08:002013-02-02T13:40:10.055-08:00I don't when they acquired the deed, but they ...I don't when they acquired the deed, but they had it back in the 1970's when I was a member. The bust and symbol were probably added at the one year anniversary of his death. I'm pretty sure it's a Jewish custom to wait that time period for the stone work for Harry. Being only "Honorary Jewish", I leave that for others to better explain it.<br /><br />Look in the BrandonKevin Connollyhttp://houdinihimself.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-11944977964881106922013-02-02T13:22:47.116-08:002013-02-02T13:22:47.116-08:00Kevin, do you know when the SAM acquired the deed ...Kevin, do you know when the SAM acquired the deed to the plot? I've always wondered about that SAM symbol on the exedra. Was that really Houdini's idea? It was added in '27, I believe, along with the bust.John Coxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04391313393222271260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-63780794730436871132013-02-02T13:11:49.578-08:002013-02-02T13:11:49.578-08:00Just to throw a monkey wrench into everything....
...Just to throw a monkey wrench into everything....<br /><br />There is also a Houdini bust that is passed on to the current Parent Assembly president of the SAM. This and a Houdini scrapbook from Bess. Where they are and how intact they, I don't know.<br /><br />The Parent Assembly holds the deed to the Houdini plot, not any now distant family member.<br /><br />And if the broken bust was Kevin Connollyhttp://houdinihimself.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-22208785140015022812013-02-01T21:56:09.463-08:002013-02-01T21:56:09.463-08:00Yes, thank you Dick and Dorothy. The New York bust...Yes, thank you Dick and Dorothy. The New York bust toured with Art and Magic, so I'm happy to have seen the original.John Coxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04391313393222271260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-65025554167257751022013-02-01T21:07:16.883-08:002013-02-01T21:07:16.883-08:00Thank you Dick and Dorothy for clearing that up!
...Thank you Dick and Dorothy for clearing that up! <br /><br />Bada Bing!<br /><br />Leo Hevianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-46028347911917160322013-02-01T20:23:22.909-08:002013-02-01T20:23:22.909-08:00The one at the Museum of the City of New York is t...The one at the Museum of the City of New York is the original bronze one given to them by Bess. The one Copperfield has is a replica.<br /><br />Dorothy Dietrich & Dick Brookz<br />The Houdini Museum<br />The Only Building in the World Dedicated to Houdini<br />Over 22 years, plus many years on the third floor of New York's Magic Towne HouseDick Brookz Dorothy Dietrich Houdini Museumhttp://houdini.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-73349107378788313232013-02-01T16:51:22.884-08:002013-02-01T16:51:22.884-08:00I'm still confused about the original bronze b...I'm still confused about the original bronze bust. The SAM gave Copperfield a bronze bust, and there is another one in the Museum of New York?Leo Hevianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-26798634229048358282013-02-01T12:49:53.647-08:002013-02-01T12:49:53.647-08:00It would be great to have it displayed somewhere.It would be great to have it displayed somewhere.John Coxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04391313393222271260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-17583201397944466912013-02-01T12:33:48.916-08:002013-02-01T12:33:48.916-08:00Hi;
We would be more than happy to provide a plac...Hi;<br /><br />We would be more than happy to provide a place to display this long missing historic art piece in our The Houdini Museum along side our reproductions to the general public until these matters are cleared up. <br /><br />Dorothy Dietrich & Dick Brookz<br />The Houdini Museum<br />The Only Building in the World Dedicated to Houdini<br />Over 22 years, plus many years on the thirdDick Brookz Dorothy Dietrich Houdini Museumhttp://houdini.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732721553418878547.post-83922726622868631992013-02-01T11:35:01.997-08:002013-02-01T11:35:01.997-08:00Well, there was no crime involved in the story he ...Well, there was no crime involved in the story he told me of how he acquired it. (I wanted to tell his story, be he asked that I not.) And if the family/police/whomever want to investigate this, I'll give them everything I have and tell them everything I know, which isn't much more than what I've put right here.<br /><br />The only crime I see was the smashing of the bust in the firstJohn Coxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04391313393222271260noreply@blogger.com